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I hope I've posted this in the right place. If I haven't, I do apologise.

First of all, thank you for inviting me to be a news wrangler. I really appreciate it and I hope I do a god job.

Now to the point. I understand how the flagging system works but I can't seem to access anything other than 'good stuff'. How do I access the different kinds of flags? Do I click on the 'choose flag' box, or do I have to select my flag elsewhere?

I can't seem to figure it out at all.

Thank you. :)

Alice

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Tom van B

at 20:02 on August 21st, 2007

I have also been wondering about this. It has finally dawned on me that at this point in time we are not supposed to hand out any flags other than Good Stuff. I have no problem with this, but feel this should be explained somewhere.

Would it be an idea to (after, say, three months) Wranglers are given access to Needs Improvement, Smells fishy and the Spam flags?

Cheers, Tom.

generaldecay

at 00:28 on August 22nd, 2007

Tom, Jordan very kindly explained it to me last night. But you make a good point about this being made clear somewhere.

Tom van B

at 15:59 on August 22nd, 2007

The explanations of the different flags are excellent, but each explanation should start with "Accessible to:" or "To be used by:".

mtippett

at 17:38 on August 22nd, 2007

A point well taken Tom. Thank you! We'll address it ASAP. Please keep the feedback coming!

SthPacific

at 03:35 on August 28th, 2007

Hi Mippet I have a problem with tagging articles like this one. Tom may be familiar with this program from ABC, (Tom Media watch is a sister program to SBSi under fair use act)

I am not sure where to pit this type of Media critisism any help would be appreciated.

http://www.nowpublic.com/uncle-rupert-edits-wiki

Kaitlin

at 09:40 on August 24th, 2007

Hi guys--Thanks for your feedback on the flagging text. If you visit the Flagging Guide, you'll now see more information on who can use what flags. Let me know if you have further questions about this.

Thanks again, great work! Keep it up.

generaldecay

at 09:43 on August 24th, 2007

Excellent, Kaitlin.

It perhaps could still benefit from a brief note that editors use XYZ, Wranglers use X, regular users use X etc.

Don't want to put you to trouble, though!

Kaitlin

at 09:48 on August 24th, 2007

Just to clarify, generaldecay--Do you mean posting a seperate page that looks like this:

Who can flag what?

ANG FFFFF

Editors FFFFF

Wranglers F

Regular users F

Or do you mean going into each page in the Member Guide and listing them? As in:

ANG page

ANG's Flags: FFFFF

Let me know what you think.

generaldecay

at 09:51 on August 24th, 2007

The first option, I think, if that would work.

Just a guide so everyone knows what their rank represents and what they can do with the flags, as it were.

Kaitlin

at 10:45 on August 24th, 2007

Hey generaldecay -- After a discussion here amongst the in-office editorial team (Victoria, Jordan, Ryan and myself), we decided to add the flagging info to the individual member pages in the Member Guide (option 2).

The reasoning for this is that it keeps all available information about who uses what flags in a loop of linked information. This way, people who are reading about different types of members can see what flags they can use, and click through to the Flagging Guide to see what the different flags mean (and vice versa).

To create a separate page with information about which users can use which flags "breaks the loop," so to speak, so that the information is outside of the flow of the Member Guide and the Flagging Guide. Does this make sense? We were trying to consider all the different ways users will approach the newsroom when making this decision.

Also, the links in the Member Guide to the flags are not complete yet; we're developing smaller flagging icons for those section. They will be up soon.

Thanks again for your feedback.

generaldecay

at 10:56 on August 24th, 2007

Makes perfect sense, thank you. I think both options would work very well, but you're right that the second option makes the information more accessible.

Kaitlin

at 12:17 on August 24th, 2007

Great! The Member Guide has been updated, so go ahead and take a look.

generaldecay

at 12:24 on August 24th, 2007

That's excellent Kaitlin. I think that those additions will be really appreciated.

Thanks. :)

Tom van B

at 23:21 on August 24th, 2007

Excellent. Thanks.

PEP

at 08:48 on August 25th, 2007

Great job, Kaitlin. Thanks. Laying out the flags also makes it clear in yet another way that NowPublic is edited, which is an important distinction for those looking for reliable news.

ryan

at 18:16 on August 25th, 2007

Hi PEP,

We have to be careful with out language in this regard as there are legal implications - content isn't edited per say rather we manage it. We don't change content ('editing' in the traditional sense of the word) any content rather we simply manage it. This is just another example of how the lingo isn't on the same page as the reality...we need to start making up words. But I'll leave that up to you.