106 mpg 'air car' creates buzz, questions

by Gh0s7 | August 8, 2008 at 09:43 am

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A new car that should be released in 2010, claims to be run on a combination of compressed air and fuel. The company that makes the car, Zero Pollution Motors, claims that is can achieve up to 106 miles per gallon.

(CNN) -- You've heard of hybrids, electric cars and vehicles that can run on vegetable oil. But of all the contenders in the quest to produce the ultimate fuel-efficient car, this could be the first one to let you say, "Fill it up with air."

That's the idea behind the compressed air car, a vehicle its backers say could achieve a fuel economy of 106 miles per gallon.

Plenty of skepticism exists, but with many Americans trying to escape sticker shock at the gas pump, the concept is generating buzz.

The technology has been the focus of MDI, a European company founded in 1991 by a French inventor and former race car engineer.

New York-based Zero Pollution Motors is the first firm to obtain a license from MDI to produce the cars in the United States, pledging to deliver the first models in 2010 at a price tag of less than $18,000.

The concept is similar to how a locomotive works, except that compressed air -- not steam -- moves the engine's pistons, said Shiva Vencat, vice president of MDI and CEO of Zero Pollution Motors.

Gas still plays a role

The six-seater planned for the U.S. market would be able to reach speeds of more than 90 mph and have a range of more than 800 miles thanks to a dual energy engine, Vencat said. VideoWatch what a prototype looks like and why the cars may take off in cities »

The design calls for one or more tanks of compressed air under the car's floor, as well as a separate tank holding at least 8 gallons of fuel.

Whether the engine uses just air or both air and fuel would depend on how fast the car is going. It would run purely on compressed air when driven at speeds less than 35 mph, Vencat said.

Since the car could only go a short distance when using just air, fuel is needed to get the full range, he explained.

"Above 35 mph, there is an external combustion system which is basically a heater that uses a little bit of gasoline or biofuel or ethanol or vegetable oil that will heat the air," Vencat said.

"Heating the air increases its volume, and by increasing its volume it increases [the car's] range. That's why with one gallon of gasoline or its equivalent we are able to make over 100 mpg." See what the engine looks like »

Vencat said an on-board compressor would refill the air tank while the car is running, or owners could refill it by plugging it into a power outlet for four hours.

Is it for real?

Experts aren't sure Americans will be zipping around in air cars and getting 106 mpg, or more than twice the fuel economy of hybrid-electric vehicles such as the Toyota Prius.

It is possible to power a car with compressed air, but the mileage claim is "at the edge of possibility," said John Callister, director of the Harvey Kinzelberg Entrepreneurship in Engineering program at Cornell University's College of Engineering.

He noted such dramatic fuel efficiency is associated with tiny experimental cars, not bigger mainstream ones.

"No one's really proven a six-seater passenger car [can get] any better than 75 miles to the gallon. So this would represent a big step forward," Callister said.

"They would have to prove that before they can throw rocks at the Prius."

Another expert expressed concern about the amount of energy it would take to generate the required air pressure: 4,500 pounds per square inch, or more than 120 times the pressure inside the tires of a typical four-door sedan.

"That is above what you normally find even in an industrial setting," said William Bulpitt, senior research engineer at the Georgia Institute of Technology's Strategic Energy Institute.

"That takes quite a compressor to do. ... It takes horsepower to compress the air up to that pressure."

If you count that energy, it's hard to believe the car would be that much more efficient than an electric vehicle, Callister said.

India shows interest

The compressed air car will get a chance to prove itself next year when it competes for the Automotive X Prize. The multimillion-dollar award will go to the team that "can win a stage race for clean, production-capable vehicles that exceed 100 mpg equivalent fuel economy," according to the X Prize Foundation.

The air-car concept has also drawn the interest of Tata Motors, India's largest automaker. The company announced an agreement with MDI last year to further develop and refine the technology.

However, the cars have yet to hit the streets in India or anywhere else in the world.

"The project is under progress. We do not yet have any timeframe for launch," said Debasis Ray, the head of corporate communications for Tata Motors.

Only prototypes exist at this point, Vencat said.

Light design

The body of the car planned for the United States would be built with fiberglass and injected foam. The chassis, composed of aluminum rods, would be glued together, not welded.

The design allows the car to be as light as possible, Vencat said.

For anyone who has doubts about its safety, he insisted computer simulations show the vehicle would pass crash tests and meet all U.S. safety standards.

"Do you think somebody would actually put millions of dollars into making a car that will not pass safety regulations? There's no point in doing that," Vencat said.

Callister pointed out there haven't been any lightweight, 100-plus mpg cars to pass crash tests, but said it could be done through a "very clever design" of a lightweight frame.

A good prototype could dispel many of the doubts about the compressed air car, he added.

"I don't think we should discount this advance if it happens," Callister said.

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World_Groove
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at 10:59 on August 8th, 2008

In South America, whole fleets of Taxis run on compressed air, In converted combustion engine vehicles.

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SOLARLIFE

World_Groove can you write about the air pressure taxis or send a picture? Would be  important proof.

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Paschen

The Air presure car was developed by French Engineers and build there first in 2002!

It made the news all over the World back then with CBC and BBC as well RTL coverage!

They where even looking at opening franchise like assembly plants in Quebec. Never heard of any thing concrete happening though! I thing Popular science had an article about it as well! It was a very good concept and surprisingly efficient as well!

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World_Groove

I will look for the info. Since this new news story came out, the web pages I found before seem to be buried in google. I also Believe I read about this in David Blumes book, i'll look and see if it is on his web site.

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World_Groove

1978 USA patent, which I think the South American Taxi cars were based on.

US Patent 4102130 - Converting an internal combustion engine to a single acting engine driven by steam or compressed air

René
René
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at 12:14 on August 8th, 2008

sounds too good to be true! (and you copied the whole article and none of the links to view anything work, just takes you to the printable version and  none of those view links work either. try googling for more info and better photos, etc. It's your story. Make it better.)

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Gh0s7

Thanks for the help. I am still learning the whole posting system. I don't know how to fix this article, but I will post the correct version next time. Thanks again for the advice.

Heiky
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at 12:59 on August 8th, 2008

Gh0s7, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Crazy concept. Very cool indeed.

SOLARLIFE
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at 13:56 on August 8th, 2008

Gh0s7, I like this story. It's good stuff. the 100 mls/gln air pressure car comes from the french riviera. I know the Inventor Guy Negre. He has a contract with Tata India for a low cost $3.500 car. France gave no support, so this invention goes india USA (video newyork autoshow guy negre) Don't be discouraged , everybody had to learn editing online.

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World_Groove

On the bright side, in going to Tata it will get developed and used quicker, where in the west it would sit on the drawing board far to long. Maybe they will ship the technogy back west inside a Jaguar or Land Rover.

Paschen
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Paschen
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at 14:07 on August 8th, 2008

Gh0s7, I like this story. It's good stuff.

liamssoft
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at 14:35 on August 8th, 2008

Gh0s7, I like this story. It's good stuff. Looks like a winner providing the cars are comfortable, then they will also appeal to the large vehicle owners.

kferaday
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at 14:39 on August 8th, 2008

Gh0s7, I like this story. It's good stuff.

I wonder why we haven't heard about this before?

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scientist

It's bullshit. Idea has been around for ages, the company are charlatans.

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World_Groove

Here is one site I had bookmarked on Air Cars and their history
http://www.theaircar.com/acf/air-cars/compressed-air-history.html
The ideas been around for quite some time.

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World_Groove

Another misc. air car bookmark


http://aircaraccess.com/index.htm


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World_Groove


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World_Groove

I am fairly sure one reference to the fleet of taxis (converted combustion engines ) running on compressed air is in David Blume's book alcohol can be a gas It is about a $50 book, so I don't have a personal copy yet, and My library only let me have it for two weeks and it is on back order there for months.

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Gh0s7

Thanks for the responses! I was a little curious as to why such a simple idea took so long to come to reality?

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Raffy Long

"You've heard of hybrids, electric cars and vehicles that can run on vegetable oil." This is crazy LOL! vegetable oil? Oh well.. Hybrid is really a good idea coz they are highly fuel-efficient and have very low emissions, it saves a lot of money and a best fuel economy cars for me. :D

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